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<span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Eliot Weinberger, who has himself attempted to persuade <a href="http://www.ndpublishing.com/home.html"><span style="color: black;">New Directions</span></a> to publish William Carlos Williams&#8217; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Spring &amp; All </i>as a separate edition; wrote to Andrew Schelling after I ran Andrew&#8217;s <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/mirrors/ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/new-directions-founder-james-laughlin.html"><span style="color: black;">meditation</span></a> on the role of New Directions as a post-avant publisher (and Andrew&#8217;s assertion that one could, in fact, base a bookstore&#8217;s poetry collection on New Directions, at least a couple of decades ago). Eliot <span class="SpellE">cc&#8217;d</span> me and the two of them eventually gave me permission to run Eliot&#8217;s email here. All ellipses are Eliot&#8217;s, and I corrected just one date, that of </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Duncan</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">&#8217;s death. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">I read your letter about New Directions on Silliman&#8217;s blog, which got me wondering whether there really is a 20-year "gap" in ND&#8217;s commitment to "EP/WCW/HD" tradition. So off the top of my head, I made a list...<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Bearing in mind that they only publish about 40 books a year, mainly prose (they are not primarily a poetry press) and that they were publishing a lot of poetry in translation &#8212; the list seems pretty impressive. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">One problem was that it was difficult to take on new people while still keeping up with new books by their old people. In the 60's they added quite a few people &#8212; probably too many (in terms of ND&#8217;s size, not the worthiness of the individual poets) and a bunch of them ended up going to Black Sparrow.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">It&#8217;s safe to say they had no interest in the NY School and subsequent generations (Berrigan, Padgett, etc) &#8212; until Bernadette in the 90's. And they had no particular interest in Langpo &#8212; but let Messerli do that (pretty bad) anthology in the 80's. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">But what I don&#8217;t see is your idea that they neglected an entire generation. Certainly there are individuals they missed over the decades. Sometimes because they simply didn&#8217;t have the opportunity; sometimes because of a mix-up (Bunting, notably); sometimes because of personal animosity toward Laughlin, or vice-versa (Zukofsky) It would be interesting to know who they actually rejected. (The only poetry book Laughlin told me he made a mistake in rejecting was </span><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Blackburn</span></st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">&#8217;s "<span class="SpellE">Proensa</span>."Around the office, they most regret the Niedecker and Rexroth <span class="SpellE">collecteds</span>.)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">It&#8217;s true that the list loses steam in the 80's, in terms of new people. Perhaps this was because Rexroth was dead and Laughlin didn&#8217;t have anyone he really trusted to talk with about the new poetry. (Most of the new people in the 60's and 70's were Rexroth enthusiasms.) And of course he was getting old, and less receptive.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">So here&#8217;s the list. I&#8217;ve kept it to "EP/WCW/HD <span class="SpellE">trad</span>"and New Americans, ignoring some one-shots, and some odd regulars like Edwin Brock in the 60's and 70's, and Allen Grossman and John <span class="SpellE">Allman</span> later on. And I&#8217;ve probably forgotten some....<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="GramE"><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Continuing: Pound (d. 1972), Williams (d. 1963), Rexroth, Levertov, Ferlinghetti, Merton (d. 1968).</span></span><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">New people: Oppen, Rakosi, </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Duncan</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">, Everson, Reznikoff, Olson (d. 1970), </span><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Tarn</span></st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">, Snyder, Jonathan Williams, Corso, Bob Kaufman, Carruth.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Continuing: Rexroth (d. 1982), Levertov, Ferlinghetti, Everson, Oppen (d.1984), Snyder, Corso, <span class="GramE">Carruth</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">New people: Creeley, Rothenberg, Antin, HD (d. 1961, pub by ND posthumously), McClure, Corman.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">[Rakosi, Reznikoff, Everson, and </span><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Tarn</span></st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;"> go to Black Sparrow. Oppen &amp; Laughlin decided "Primitive" was too small a book for ND &#8212; you can&#8217;t say he was "dropped" by ND, as they published everything else. Corman goes to many presses, comes back in 90's with one book.]<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Continuing: Creeley, Rothenberg, Antin, Duncan (returns from silence; d. 1988), Levertov, Ferlinghetti, <span class="GramE">McClure</span>. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">New people: Sobin, Weinberger (since you mentioned me, though hardly a poet), R. Waldrop, David Hinton (as translator), Peter Dale Scott.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Continuing: Creeley, Ferlinghetti, Rothenberg, Antin, Levertov, R. Waldrop, Weinberger, Sobin, Hinton, McClure, <span class="GramE">Peter</span> Dale Scott. <span class="GramE">[Plus one book by Corman.]</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Continuing: Creeley (d. 2006), Ferlinghetti, Rothenberg, Palmer, S. Howe, </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Gander</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">, Brathwaite, R. Waldrop, Mayer, Weinberger, <span class="GramE">Hinton</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Continuing posthumous publications: Pound, WCW, Rexroth, Oppen, Duncan, Levertov, HD, Merton. [Creeley, just before his death, bizarrely decided to go to </span><st1:place><st1:placetype><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Univ.</span></st1:placetype><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;"> of </span><st1:placename><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">California Press</span></st1:placename></st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">.]<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Adding the non-avants, and various strange one-shots, in any given decade they published about 15 living English-language poets, as well as unpublished/uncollected books by the dead, and many foreign poets. In the 60's there were maybe half a dozen more &#8212; but of course books were cheaper then. So it's hard to say that a "generation" is missing. Regardless of what one thinks of the individual choices, the living poets on the list right now are in their 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, and (Ferlinghetti) 80's.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt;">Well, that kept me up!&nbsp; Hope you saw the anthology ("World Beat"<span class="GramE">) &nbsp;I</span> just did of all the foreign and some of the Americans ND has been publishing in the last 15 years...<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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